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The Discussion Groups are Closing

Frequent postersI’ve been posting about this for the last few years and I’ve finally carved out some time during my staycation to decommission our discussion group servers.  This is long overdue, I know.  But like any caring ListMistress, it’s been hard to say “it’s time”. It’s about 5 years past time, actually.

I know that some of you have expressed an interested in having me just continue to host these with no updates.  But the technology the WebBoard software runs on is too old and out of support to do so.  While there have been several physical servers over the years (starting with just mailing list software running on a PC in my basement), the vendor of the most recent software has been out of business for more than seven years.  The software was running last on Windows 2003 and SQL Server 2000.  And while I could likely install the software on an updated server, the installation process for this application requires a call home to a mothership that has long left the universe. So that’s not an option.  There are also other considerations in that the original vendor took no steps to make the software very security-mindful and that has always bothered me.

The server (and database) I’m decommissioning today was put into production in 1998.  Clinton was having a bad year, the International Space Station was just being built and InfoAdvisors had been incorporated for about a year.

Looking Back

I wish I had time to sort through some of our posts to see what the most fun, debatable or encouraging ones were.  But what I do remember is that we built a community of data professionals who worked to make sure that everyone else working in the data field had the right resources to be successful.  I will keep my database backup around and might spend some time rooting through it to find some gems.  If you have some memories you’d like to share, please do so in the comments below.

we built a community of data professionals who worked to make sure that everyone else working in the data field had the right resources to be successful.

Many of you were just lurkers, reading the content, occasionally asking for help (printing with ERwin, getting macros to work in ER/Studio, figuring out what the heck a conceptual model is, etc.)  But some of you did wonderful things by answering so many posts and providing user-to-user support to help others get stuff done (image shows some of our most frequent posters).  And some of you came for the debate. You know who you are.


I thought I’d share some stats with you about our community. Not all of these were data boards, but since our non-data ones were trivial, I’m not going to bother filtering out. While we’ve archived a great deal of content over the decades. And, again, this is data active on the server right now, not over the entire life of our communities.

Registered Users:  10,175

Boards: 15

Forums: 126

Messages: 326,013

Attachments: 2,086


These also were adjusted over the years, but we hosted communities for:

Casewise Corporate Modeler

Data Modeling (various boards)




IT Methods

Other Data Modeling Tools (various boards)

Platinum Repository


Rational/InfoSphere Data Architect


Visible Analyst

Zachman Framework


Unlike almost all other online communities, we actively moderated every post to our boards.  That means that a human being read every post to ensure it was on topic and not spam.  We could have not have done that without the help of our volunteer moderators:

Rick Davis

Rob Drysdale

Scot Fearnside

Garry Gramm

Jeremy Janzen

Carol Lehn

Ray McGlew

Fran Palmeri

Karel Vetrovsky

Many of us are still active on other boards and social media.  You should reach out to them and say thanks.  They made this all happen.

What’s Next?

I looked at web-based discussion software for my blog.  I may still install some, but they all miss the feature that I really want – Email and web-based discussions, all integrated.  The other issue is that there are now so many places on the web with data-focused discussions that I’m not sure standing up another one will add much value.

Here are some of the places you can go to get some data modeling community vibes:

There are also the usual internet locations of LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter.  But most of these are, let’s be candid, full of spam.  I can’t really recommend any single source there.

I’m also still the moderator of dm-discuss on Yahoo Groups.  I suggest you join that group if you are looking for vendor-independent discussions about data management and modeling.

Thank you!

I ran the infrastructure for these online communities, but you, readers and sometimes posters, delivered the content, which was the most important part. I’m hanging up my ListMistress tiara and using my Twitter to influence IT professionals to love their data now.   I encourage you to find some non-data oriented communities and start influencing them to think about data, too.  Then join some of the data ones and start helping each other, too. 

I’m still here, still loving data.  It’s just the server that is moving to a farm where it can play with other servers.  I hope to see you in one these other communities.

So Long, and Thanks for All the Data

ListMistress (ret.)

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